ALPS OutdoorZ
ALPS OutdoorZ Commander + Pack Bag
The Commander + Pack Bag pairs ALPS OutdoorZ's aluminum freighter frame with a detachable 5,250 ci (86 L) ripstop bag, giving budget hunters a true meat-hauling system for roughly $150 street ($199.99 MSRP; the frame alone sells for about $110). Strip the bag off and the frame's lashing system and fold-out shelf carry quarters solo. The torso adjusts from 17 to 23 inches, making it a popular loaner and first elk pack.
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Pros
- ✓The undisputed budget pack-out king on Hunt Talk and Rokslide — owners report hauling multiple elk and deer over five-plus seasons from a system that often sells under $150.
- ✓The bag detaches in minutes, leaving a dedicated freighter frame with a fold-out shelf and full lashing system that carries a lashed elk quarter more securely than most internal-frame meat shelves.
- ✓True adjustable suspension with a 17-23 inch torso range and 33-60 inch belt — it fits nearly anyone in camp, which is why it's the most-loaned elk pack on the forums.
- ✓At 5,250 ci (86 L) the bag swallows a full multi-day camp plus a spotting scope in its dedicated pocket, capacity that costs three times as much from Mystery Ranch or Stone Glacier.
- ✓For pure weight hauling it outperforms same-price internal-frame day packs like the Badlands 2200 class — the rigid external frame transfers triple-digit loads to the hips instead of collapsing.
- ✓The drop-down rifle holder and front organization pockets earn consistent praise from Amazon reviewers as genuinely usable rather than gimmicky.
- ✓Simple clevis-pin frame construction means field repairs need nothing more than hardware-store pins — a durability advantage forum users cite over welded or carbon frames.
- ✓Reviewers consistently describe the ripstop fabric and zippers as holding up beyond what the price suggests, with several multi-year owners reporting zero blowouts.
Cons
- ✗At 7 lb 5 oz empty it is one of the heaviest systems in its class — nearly three pounds more than modern bag-and-frame hybrids like an Exo K4 3200.
- ✗The clevis pins and metal rings jingle as you walk — a known out-of-the-box annoyance that owners silence with cotter pins and electrical tape.
- ✗The tall, rigid external frame snags brush and treestand ladders constantly; Rokslide users are blunt that this is a hauling rig, not a stalking or timber pack.
- ✗Padding is thin by modern standards — hunters who carry 80+ lbs more than a mile say the shoulder straps and belt get punishing compared to premium suspensions.
- ✗ALPS's limited warranty draws complaints — one long-term owner had every strap failure after four years dismissed as normal wear, a sharp contrast to Badlands' unconditional policy.
- ✗No hip-belt pockets or modern ergonomics — rangefinder and calls end up in bag pockets you can't reach with the pack on.
- ✗The 33-inch-tall bag rides high above your head when stuffed, making the loaded pack top-heavy and a sail in open-country wind.
- ✗Stiff ripstop and a creaky frame make it audibly noisier than brushed-fabric packs — bowhunters on Archery Talk generally pass on it for close-range work.
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